[港事] 有多少香港人願意香港成為普通中國城市呢

>>>>No one can give you the exact number of people but I'm pretty sure the number of people getting the benefits/advantages from China GDP is on the rise.  See how many mainland tourists are visiting HK and other countries to do crazy shopping! See how many mainland rich are investing in housing etc in HK and other countries....
wwswong2000 發表於 7-11-2011 11:45
HAHAHAHA, only a tiny minority of Chinaman tourists had money to spend, who probably got their money via crooked ways, most Chinaman tourists are dirt poor and could only afford "zero fee" tours
勿再延誤,遠走高飛
Delay no more, go far high
And don't forget China is a 1.3 billion population. Rich must be a very small portion of the country.  ...
wwswong2000 發表於 7-11-2011 11:45
EXACTLY, so an average Chinaman like YOU are dirt poor, you have no choice but to admit this even in the bullshit you're trying to spread on internet
勿再延誤,遠走高飛
Delay no more, go far high
This may be your own first action, but most HK people/voters had already taken the first action to take advantage of the rise of China and its tremendous economic growth to make money, money and aft ...
wwswong2000 發表於 7-11-2011 03:38
take advantage of the rise of China and its tremendous economic growth...? ...... boring ...

郎鹹平引網絡海嘯:中共政府已实际破產(附片)

http://youtu.be/comHcv7qSBg

http://www.hkreporter.com/talks/thread-1365253-1-1.html

今年10月22日,香港中文大學財務學講座教授郎鹹平應邀前往瀋陽做了一次關於中國經濟的演講。在這次演講中,郎咸平直指政府不作為。據他的獨立數據稱,中國的GDP不僅沒有增長,實際上還下降了10%,遠非政府所公佈的上漲9%。

郎咸平預測中國將會重蹈日本覆轍。政府欠債有36萬億,一定破產。激憤之處,郎咸平還劍鋒直指總理溫家寶,斥其看不懂經濟,水平太低。該演講於近日盛傳網絡,其中,針砭時弊、語氣驚人的演講內容迅速引發網絡海嘯。部份網站轉載的帖子已被刪除。

實話難堪 郎咸平提四個要求

在演講前,郎咸平提出四個要求:第一,現場不能錄像;第二,不能錄音;第三,不能有媒體在場;第四,聽完演講之後絕對不能夠寫微博。他要求不要把其講的內容拿到網站上去,免得大家難堪,「因為我今天講到的都是實話,在今天這個體制之下,實話是不能講的。」

他表示,中國從上說謊說到下,所有的數據他們(中共)全部造假。任何新聞,只要有一點負面的全部都不能曝光。建黨90週年對於媒體的打壓更是激烈,甚麼都不能報導。「你不要以為現在天下太平了,其實甚麼都不能報導,我們做這個電視節目痛苦不堪,甚麼節目都不准做,只要將講與政府有關的,都不能報導。」

政府已經破產了

他提到,大家看到四個地方政府批准發債,可能覺得是好消息,「我告訴你『完了』兩個字。你們還敢在那發債啊?我們政府已經破產了,聽得你毛骨悚然。」

郎咸平在開場白中講到,全世界只有我們一個國家投資市場是所謂的冰火兩重天。沒有一個國家的股市像我們一樣一直下跌,而其它的市場:樓市、汽車、奢侈品、古董藝術品,持續火爆。原因是一個國家的經濟生了重病。

通脹率起碼16% 

他表示,統計局發表數據,經濟增長率9.1%是假的,通脹率6.2%也是假的,起碼16%。目前政府的所有政策就是在給這個生病的經濟打強心針、吃退燒藥。政府之所以這麼做,因為他們根本不懂。中國經濟已經在非常危險的邊緣。

全世界經濟第一個走入蕭條的就是中國,今年從7月份開始,中國製造業採購經理人指數第一個領先全世界探底。而美國的製造業採購經理人指數一直超過50%,因為美國的媒體只報導負面消息,我們的媒體只報導正面消息。而銀行的市盈率一直不高即系金融海嘯的前奏。

演講中提到,每一步專家都告訴政府怎麼做,但政府根本不聽「我們這個官員啊,這種權力的傲慢,聽不進任何反對意見,你不順著他講,他認為你是反對它!」他講通過製造業的數據,電廠、鐵礦石等都在大賠。所有數據都是病入膏肓的結果。而病入膏肓的中國,病因來自於製造業危機。演講中,他用大段時間與實例解釋了這一論點。

郎咸平表示,歷史學家評論蘇聯,指蘇聯解體只有一個原因就是蘇聯的領導人非常平庸。毛澤東從來把美國當敵人,系因為美國太厲害。

中國將成為最貧窮的國家

郎咸平指出,工業、礦業、農業通通沒有定價區,大量的利潤被洗劫一空,這是現代的沒有硝煙的戰爭。透過這場戰爭,中國將成為最貧窮的國家。他還指出,只要看到泡沫,就象徵著更大危機的前兆。中國製造業喪失定價權,加上政府一系列錯誤設施,使製造業陷入如此的危機。

全世界有人類以來最高的稅

演講中還提到了,政府政策出現了三個最大錯誤:其中之一的是稅費太多;從世界數據來看,企業家去年交的直接稅加上間接稅佔到了中國企業稅前利潤的70%;個人交的所有稅高達平均所得稅的81.6%;是全世界有人類以來最高的稅。

此外,我國還有美國的次貸危機,次貸危機的真正原因來自信託責任的破產。但就算沒有次貸危機,我們中國經濟發展也是這樣的結果,所以,我們的問題比歐洲、比英國要嚴重得多得多。我們不但有二元經濟所導致的民營經濟的全面蕭條,還有不可知的未來金融海嘯的衝擊。當然這個所謂的美國的次貸危機已經造成了很大的影響。
  
美國一旦救市失敗 中國將付慘重代價

郎咸平教授講:「因為我是真正愛國的,只有盡早告訴政府它才能有英明對策。中國產能過剩,這個問題因為全球的高負債得到的緩解,他們買了我們的產品。但只要美國人因為經濟危機不買的話,我們生產過剩的現象立刻爆炸。因為我們的消費只有30%,我們根本買不起,也買不了這麼多的產品。防火牆一旦破裂,老百姓的信心一旦喪失,不再以負債的方式購買了,那麼我們所面臨的是企業的大量倒閉,我都不敢想。

他說,這一刻我比誰都緊張,我一直觀察美國政府能不能成功救市,因為美國政府一旦失敗你可不要作壁上觀,你可不要嘲笑美國政府部門,我們中國將付出慘重的代價。」

目前,整個金融體系的問題,會使得各國無力再以負債的方式成長,因此,就不會再以負債的方式購買我們產能過剩所製造的產品,下一步就是政府的信用,所以說中國不可能倖免於難。
  
郎咸平最後指出,大家會知道為甚麼中國長此下去會成為最貧窮的國家,因為我們掌控了價值鏈中最不重要的一個環節,因為掌控了6+1的「1」之後,帶來的必然結果就是給你們一個最差的自然資源,挖光、用光的自然環境以及剝削的勞工給你們了,我們這一代是最對不起下一代了。
多事
You brought up some interesting points but let me share my view.


>>>>No one can give you the exact number of people but I'm pretty sure the number of people getting the benefits/advantages from C ...
wwswong2000 發表於 7-11-2011 11:45
GDP again!? …

In China, do you believe there are still in economic rise or economic risks?

It is economic risks for present tense.

According to 郎鹹平, China economic grown was base on reinforced concrete. In the past 30 years, over 70% GDP was come from boosting infrastructure building. Such as highways, high speed railway and the properties industry. Only least than 30% GDP was come from commodity and food production. The situation is very similar to the stage in a few months before the Soviet collapsed. Soviet’s economic concentrated 70% on military industry. The US end up the cold war. The soviet collapsed.
多事
HAHAHAHA, only a tiny minority of Chinaman tourists had money to spend, who probably got their money via crooked ways, most Chinaman tourists are dirt poor and could only afford "zero fee" tours :lo ...
Nigerian 發表於 7-11-2011 12:17
TOO BAD!!  You are still one of very few ones who have NOT taken advantage of the rise of China and its tremendous economic growth and make money, money and more money.  But I don't worry..sooner or later you will realize MONEY TALKS and IT'S THE ECONOMY, STUPID!!
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TOO BAD!!  You are still one of very few ones who have NOT taken advantage of the rise of China and its tremendous economic growth and make money, money and more money.  But I don't worry..sooner or ...
wwswong2000 發表於 7-11-2011 14:25
Oh, you're dead wrong there, I can take money money and money from China AND bash stupid Chinaman like you at the same time. Hey, its the CCP and their cronies who took money from you and gave that money to me, and since you gladly handed over your money to them, I don't have to thank you for nothing
勿再延誤,遠走高飛
Delay no more, go far high
TOO BAD!!  You are still one of very few ones who have NOT taken advantage of the rise of China and its tremendous economic growth and make money, money and more money.  But I don't worry..sooner or ...
wwswong2000 發表於 7-11-2011 14:25
TOO BAD!! you are the one of the very smart guy who have taken advantage of the risk of CHina and its tremendous economic growth. And you are gladly pay in the world’s highestprice for reinforced concretes. On the other hand, the CCP took away money,money and more money from your pocket.
But I don't worry..sooner or lateryou will realize MONEY TALKS and IT'S THE ECONOMY, STUPID!! ...

Thus, they could push up GDPs. Then they wouldproudly say we are No2 GDP in the world.
多事
Oh, you're dead wrong there, I can take money money and money from China AND bash stupid Chinaman like you at the same time. Hey, its the CCP and their cronies who took money from you and gave that  ...
Nigerian 發表於 7-11-2011 15:08
So what? Great that our mainland Chineses have so much money to spend here and there and lucky you can get maybe a penny out of it.  Time flies and things have all changed.  Do you seriously believe HK economy could still sustain if there were no more mainland tourists and mainland investment in town? C'mon think about it carefully before you BS BS and BS and launch any personal attack.
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TOO BAD!! you are the one of the very smart guy who have taken advantage of the risk of CHina and its tremendous economic growth. And you are gladly pay in the world’s highestprice for reinforced co ...
多事人 發表於 7-11-2011 15:27
Happy to see you jumped into discussion but you still don't see the BIG PICTURE.  China is positioning herself as an economic nation and HK as an economic city.  All that means is that both China and HK are creating a platform which only focuses on economics and nothing else.  YOU must understand this and take your chance to take advantage of the rise of China and its tremendous economic growth to make $$$, $$$ and more $$$.  If you don't like this, either you go away or find some means to change it.

Also, think more thoroughly. China and HK are actually promoting democracy. But democracy comes with a price. As long as you make money, money and money, and if you like you are eligible to apply for permanent residency in other so called "democratic" countries like USA, UK, Australia, Canada etc.

DO YOU AGREE?
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So what? Great that our mainland Chineses have so much money to spend here and there and lucky you can get maybe a penny out of it.  Time flies and things have all changed.  Do you seriously believe ...
wwswong2000 發表於 8-11-2011 08:05
Correction, a tiny minority of Chinaman have money to spend, mainly the CCP and their cronies, the average stupid Chinaman like you are dirt poor
勿再延誤,遠走高飛
Delay no more, go far high